Wassup, G? I've been working on this serpent thing for a while now. Get this... What I've found out is that ''serpent'' was a metaphor for either ''wise man,'' ''wizard,'' or ''being of light'' back when the Book of Genesis was written. This symbol had to have still been in use in Jewish culture by the time Jesus came. So there's your answer for the serpent part. ''Be wise men. Know your surroundings. Know when to strike and when to stay cool.'' I really don't think Satan disguised himself as a snake in the garden. I think he manifested himself as either a person or a ''being of light'' (St. Paul wrote a verse about Satan sometimes disguising himself as the latter, though I can't name the verse or even the book. I just remember reading it in one of the epistles). When God tells him ''on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life,'' (Gen. 3:14, NKJV) I think this is also heavy symbolism, meaning ''you will be lowly in My sight and bow down to Me, begging, just to eat the scraps from My table.'' In verse 15, ''He will bruise your head'' means ''Jesus is gonna mess you up in a bad bad way, and the wound you sustain will damage the seat of your intellect and your abilty to control people.'' The next part, the phrase ''you shall bruise His heel'' means ''you will impair His flesh for a short time, but He will be able to recover easily. After three days and three nights, He will rise again.'' Also, being under one's heel is a position of inferiority (1 Kings 5:3, Lamentations 3:34, Malachi 4:3, Romans 16:20, 1 Corinthians 15:25). To this day, if man in the Middle East shows another man the bottom of his foot- even unintentionally, while sitting down with his legs crossed- it's taken as a sign of disrespect. It's taken as an insult. ''You're beneath me.'' We see the serpent reference again in Mark 16:18, when Jesus tells about His believers. We don't hear anything about the apostles picking up snakes, but a certain sorcerer named Simon is mentioned in Acts 8:9, when he is ''taken up,'' or ''converted'' by the church. So all this is part of my new and improved (and probably heretical) Drewish theory. Sorry about all the extra stuff you had to read, but I hadn't shared this with anyone else yet. Now as for the dove, it's just a symbol of peace. Nothing too complicated about it. The dove is a harmless animal. It's not predatory. It never attacks other creatures, besides worms and bugs, possibly (I have no idea what doves eat. LOL). I don't have any good scriptural references, other than the ones you already know about the Holy Spirit descending upon Jesus like a dove, right before He was baptized, or the one from the story of the Great Flood, or sacrificial animals in the Old Testament. It's just a universal sign of peace and passivity. Love, peace, and chicken grease, Drew