Question:
Nikon 18-200 VR lens for my D80??
maria
2007-10-02 07:03:35 UTC
I have a 18-135 lens on my camera now, would it be worth selling my lens and buying the VR, is it really THAT much better...
Four answers:
Mr Cooper
2007-10-02 07:27:19 UTC
Depends if you really need the extra zoom. Some will say the VR capabilities are well worth the cost. Through my experience I haven't really genuinely benefitted from having VR. I've shot some sporting events, including the Dolphins training-camp with the VR and it may have helped some but overall I use a tripod and dont have much camera shake. What is more beneficial in a lens is having a lower fstop (2.8 rather than 3.5) etc. The Vr is 3.5. If your 135 is dx it's prolly 3.5. I'd sell it and save for something that can stop down farther.



The real benefits of the 18-200 is that its a all in one lens. You can go to a parade, to a mountain scene, or to a soccer game all in the same day without changing your lens. If that is something you are into, and you dont want to change your lenses often, and if you think you'll benefit from the extra zoom and vr then have at it!



Just be weary of who you are purchasing from. FAR too many websites and distributors want to sell you a "Grey Market" item which isn't covered by NIKON-USA warrenties, and cannot recieve any type of service by any official nikon dealers. You need to find some-one who can fix it if you buy it grey-market and it breaks. If you go to places like B&H Photo:

( http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/8456/Digital_Film_SLR_Interchangeable_Lenses_for_Nikon.html )

They actually tell you if its grey-market or not by indicating if the product is "Imported" or a "USA" product. Whatever you decide, just remember as with any zoom lens, you need to have sufficient lighting to actually take a decent photo without any noise. So if you plan on taking zoom pictures on a cloudy day or in the evening, you'll need a decent flash (sb600+) first, so maybe you should consider that investment first if you haven't done so already. Anyhow, Good-luck and happy shooting! :)
George Y
2007-10-02 15:17:17 UTC
I shoot with the 18-200mm and absolutely love it. This summer, I went on a two-week long trip throughout China and was so confident in this lens, that it was the only optic I packed.



The VR feature allowed me to take excellent pictures from a moving tour bus, as well as allowing me to capture the excitement of a night out in Shanghai. In both cases, a tripod wasn't a realistic option. The VR steadies the camera enough to let you shoot two shutterspeeds slower than you normally could. During late evening sunset shots on the Great Wall, I was able to get steady shots handheld at 1/4 of a second or slower.



Here's a great review of the lens.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18200.htm



and some images.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18200/examples/index.htm



Here's some shots that I took at the WNBA Playoffs. I alternated between a Nikon 75-300mm for the far shots, but the front court pictures were all with my 18-200mm VR.

http://www.spmsportspage.com/images/WNBA/2007/playoffs/Sacramento-Monarchs-86-vs-San-Antoino-SiverStars-65-8-2007/DSC_0757_GHYoung.html



I hope this is helpful for you.
Picture Taker
2007-10-02 16:56:11 UTC
In the longer focal lengths, yes it is that much better.



If you want to take pictures that are not so blurry, especially if you are having trouble using a telephoto lens, look for a camera or lens that is designed to help you eliminate this blur caused by slight hand shaking. This technology is known as "image stabilization," "vibration reduction," "shake reduction," "optical stabilization," and "anti-shake" by the various manufacturers. It is "for real" and makes a visible difference most of the time. If you are using an average point and shoot camera without a monstrous zoom lens, you will see the difference in lower light situations where the camera will be using about 1/60th of a second or lower.



If you are using a telephoto lens, the effect will be noticeable at roughly anything slower than the inverse of the focal length, which used to be our standard for deciding when you should use a tripod. If it's a 200 mm lens, you will see the benefit of "IS" or "VR" at speeds of 1/200 or slower. If it's a 500 mm lens, you will see the benefit of "IS" or "VR" at speeds of 1/500 or slower. Actually, you will notice a difference at slower speeds than this, but I'd say that this threshold is where it can be called a distinct advantage. Macro shooting benefits from "IS/VR" also, because any movement will be greatly magnified when you are working at extreme close range with high magnification. Also, I feel that "IS/VR" helps if you are using a point and shoot camera at arm's length as you compose in the LCD monitor. It is much harder to hold the camera still with your arms out in front of you. "VR/IS" would be helpful there, even with the shorter focal lengths.



Please understand that "VR" or "IS" (etc) will NOT stop motion in a moving subject. You need to use a high shutter speed and/or pan along with the subject in order to do that. VR is only to minimize the effects of camera movement to give you a better chance at getting a clear picture. It won't work miracles there, either. You have to at least TRY to hold still. You can't go down a bumpy road in speeding car and expect to get great shots.



This is a composite I made to demonstrate "vibration reduction," which is also called "image stabilization" and "shake reduction" by various camera and lens manufacturers. For the best results, you should click on "All Sizes" and then "Original" before making your comparisons. I tried to remain consistent for all three shots, but I guess as clouds move in and out, things varied by an f-stop or so. I do not think that depth of field is an issue in this test, though. I did not move my feet at all during the test, so the point of view is identical. All three images were made using 1/60th of a second, which I consider to be the low shutter speed for hand-holding a 60 mm lens. I made a reference shot with my 60 mm Nikon macro lens, since I know this to be a fairly sharp lens. I tried to hold as still as I could, but I did not use a tripod, which would negate the need for "VR" anyhow. I then made two more exposures with the Nikon 18-200 VR lens, set at 62 mm. I was trying to match the 60 mm lens, but I did it by just remembering some landmarks and zooming to match. As I used the VR lens, however, I did my best to actually "vibrate" the camera by inducing a tremor in my hands as if I was shivering in the cold. I took one photo with the help of VR and one without. It was extremely odd to look through the lens as I shook my hands.



Since the VR was working, even though I knew I was shaking the camera, the image appeared steady in the viewfinder! Okay, compare the shots for yourself. You won't see too much difference in the top two, but the effect of vibration reduction is very obvious when you see how the picture comes out when "VR" is turned off.



Nikon D200 - ISO 100 - Nikon 60 mm Macro and Nikon 18-200 VR with and without VR



http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/511455669/



I realized that the first VR demo (above) may not be a "real world" demo, as I was TRYING to shake during the exposure. Who does that? I was originally trying to answer a question for someone who had a problem with severe tremors, so I was trying to induce tremors in my own hands. Well, I should ask, "Who does that on purpose?"



So in this pair, I was trying to hold still for both shots. The white balance is different, as I am trying to learn about that, but I realized that the first shot I took had the "VR" turned off. Everything else is the same, because I didn't move and the shots were made less than 30 seconds apart. The exposures were the same for both shots. I did not do ANY post-processing at all, as that would defeat the purpose of the demo.



Nikon D200 - ISO 100 - Nikon 70-300 VR @ 240 mm with and without VR



http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/755244335/



For a detailed, yet easy to understand explanation, see:



http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/image-stabilization.htm



Popular Photography writer Michael McNamara has a piece about image stabilization on-line. The two schools of thought are to either put the image stabilization technology in the lens (as Nikon, Canon and Sigma do) or in the camera (as Pentax, Olympus, Samsung and Sony do). He says, "So far, lens-based IS has the lead, with one Nikon VR lens logging a 3- to 4-stop improvement (a few big tele zooms barely reached 2 stops). In contrast, the best result from a sensor-shift DSLR is 2 to 3 stops, with the average closer to 2 stops." Read the whole article here: http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/4615/image-stabilization-special-stop-the-shake.html There is a chart on page two that is a real eye-opener. Far and away the best at image stabilization is the Nikon 18-200 VR lens, which shows gains of 3-to-4 stops!
anonymous
2007-10-02 14:34:38 UTC
no, just keep 18-135.


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