Question:
Canon Rebel XTi vs. Nikon D40x?
abberzon
2007-08-05 12:05:36 UTC
I'm really interested in getting into photography, but I need opinions on cameras. These are the 2 that I'm really debating between. Any likes or dislikes would be great for me to take into consideration.
Four answers:
Elvis
2007-08-05 12:17:56 UTC
I like canon.

Both are excellent cameras.

Go to the store and see which one feels better in your hands.

You can't go wrong with either one.

Good Luck !
gretsch16pc
2007-08-05 19:58:22 UTC
You can not go wrong with either choice, both have there pros n cons. Though I picked the Canon Digital Rebel XTi over the Nikon D40x for more then one reason, I have been very happy with my Canon 35mm cameras for more then 30 years and still own 3, New F-1, A-1 and T-90. I have never owned a Nikon nor have any family members, which does not make it a bad camera, it's just a personal choice, that's all.



Many Professionals have used both as as I have told many in the past looking to buy. And I myself picked the XTi over the D40x. I also got a New Tamron 18-250 zoom lens with that XTi body.



Check out reviews and demos at www.bhphotovideo.com I have been doing business with B&H Photo for more then 25 years.
anonymous
2007-08-07 06:40:35 UTC
You want to buy an "essential/basic" DSLR system which

has an all-around affordable accessory lenses, then

consider the award winning Pentax KD series beginning

with the Pentax K100D 6.1 mp DSLR with "image

stabilization" built into the camera body. "Image

stabilization" is essential for allowing you to take

telephoto pictures at weddings, parties, while on the

go and you don't have to drag along a tripod to steady

your camera. Unfortunately, Canon and Nikon have

chosen to install their "vibration reduction" devices

into very expensive auxiliary lenses. But getting back

to the Pentax K100D which comes in a starter kit

consisting of two Pentax lenses: a 18-55 mm. normal

lens and a 50-200 mm. telephoto which sells for $650

at samys.com. Again, the Pentax K100D starter kit runs

circles around the D40 Nikon!



Good luck!
Picture Taker
2007-08-05 20:22:06 UTC
One of my stock answers. Lucky you. :-)



Nikon D40X vs. Canon Rebel XTi



You can go here to see a review. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/ The last page takes you to some sample images. See: http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/3896/camera-test-nikon-d40x.html for a glowing review that even compares it with the XTi just a little bit.



Open a copy of Internet Explorer (or the browser of your choice) and go to http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/ Open another copy and go to http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/ You can then scroll along the top and try to find some similar images to compare. Click on the file name below the image and you will get a new window that shows the image full-sized. Once it loads it will shrink to fit your screen, but you can click on the image to zoom to full-size. Hit [TAB]+[ALT] to toggle back and forth between the images and pick out hte differences. You can easily spend an hour doing this, but you are talkin gabout the best way to spend $1,000 for a camera and I think it is well worth your time.



These two are very similar as far as the subject, ISO, lens and other values:

Canon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_0006.jpg

Nikon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/originals/dsc_0199.jpg

I don't know what's up with the focus in the Canon sample, but try to overlook that as it's the photographer's decision where to focus.



The Canon might win in this next pair, but it's processed from a RAW image, so it's hard to compare.

Canon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1206-raw-acr.jpg

Nikon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/originals/dsc_0229.jpg



See:

Canon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1201.jpg

Nikon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/originals/dsc_0279-raw-acr.jpg



You get the idea. There are not too many that actually match up for comparison.



See this page for a side-by-side comparison:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/page20.asp



See this page for some controled side-by-side studio tests with jpeg images:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/page21.asp

and read the comments at the end of the page.



Here are some studio tests with RAW images that you can click to enlrage, just as before:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD40X/page23.asp



Here are some studio ISO comparisons:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD40X/page25.asp



The long and short of it is that Phil Askey at dpreview.com tested both cameras and called it a draw in image quality except high ISO sensitivity, where the Canon takes the slight edge. The Nikon was termed "quicker and more comfortable to use."



I still like the idea that the Nikon has a spot meter and find it odd that the Canon doesn't. The Nikon is a bit limited in autofocus capabilities and speed compared to the Canon, though.



Here are some pertinent quotes about the D40X:



"Noise suppression was generally better than the D80's and much better than the Rebel's. As ISOs increased, the D40x's resolution exceeded that of the Rebel."



"The economy-model status of the D40x doesn't show in picture quality, either. At ISO 100, the D40x turned in an average resolution of 2075 lines, slightly behind the Nikon D80 and Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi."



Continue on down on page 2 for a direct comparison to the XTi. I'll let you read it for yourself, as it seems to lean slightly towards the Canon and it would kill me to write that. I'll leave that job for Koko.



But seriously, these cameras are EXTREMELY close in performance and value. It is true that there is a "problem" with older Nikon lenses not autofocusing on the D40, but if you do not own a bag full of older lenses, it is not going to be a problem. I hate to see people slam the camera because it can't autofocus with older Nikon lenses. It is true that there is a "slight problem" with older Nikon lenses not autofocusing on the D40, but if you do not own a bag full of older lenses, it is not going to be a problem. It is barely a problem anyhow. If you check www.nikonusa.com for "AF-S" lenses, which are ALL 100% compatible with the D40, you will find 23 lenses, including 7 "VR" (vibration Reduction) lenses and one true macro lens with "VR". There are another 25-plus lenses in the current catalog that provide all functions except autofocus as well as many (possibly dozens) "out of print" lenses that will work just as well. In addition, although these lens will not autofocus, most of them will still give focus confirmation. From the D40 manual: "If the lens has a maximum aperture of f/5.6 of faster, the viewfinder focus indicator can be used to confirm whether the portion of the subject in the selected focus area is in focus. After positioning the subject in the active focus area, press the shutter release button halfway and rotate the lens focusing ring until the in-focus indicator is displayed." (See http://www.members.aol.com/swf08302/nikonafs.txt for a list of AF-S lenses.)



You need to go to a real camera store and pick up both cameras and see how they feel to you. Some people will love the Canon and some will love the Nikon. Find out which one you are. You will be happy with either one, but you will be happiest with the one that fits your hands better.



See also:



http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos400d%2Cnikon_d40x&show=all



B&H Prices, April 2007



Nikon D40x, 10.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit with Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor Lens - $800



Nikon D40x, 10.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit with Nikon 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor Lens - $1,030



Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi (a.k.a. 400D) 10.1 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit (Silver) with Canon 18-55mm EF-S Lens - $770



Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi (a.k.a. 400D) 10.1 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Body (Black) with Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Autofocus Lens - $1,180


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